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Re: Covid marshals

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Mandye2020 wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 11:39 ive worked as a security guard for 5 years with my badge and not once have a touched anyone unless it has been to aide someone drunk or took bad and collapsed
Good job :cheers:
Although assisting a drunk wouldn't be my aim in case other claims went in, you know what people are like.

I think a few people off here might ask "is that you off the Sunderland Forum" :lol: and talk to you now as happened before with someone.


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Sunderland Nut wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 10:37
I would be very careful even just thinking about touching anyone at all who might be going against some rules or even breaking the law.
So, what about a citizens arrest, people talk about that all the time.


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Nockya wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 18:06
Sunderland Nut wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 10:37
I would be very careful even just thinking about touching anyone at all who might be going against some rules or even breaking the law.
So, what about a citizens arrest, people talk about that all the time.
I was always on the understanding that you can make a citizens arrest if you believe the crime being committed was serious enough to put the perpetrator in prison. But how you determine this, I have no idea.


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cam wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 18:32
Nockya wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 18:06

So, what about a citizens arrest, people talk about that all the time.
I was always on the understanding that you can make a citizens arrest if you believe the crime being committed was serious enough to put the perpetrator in prison. But how you determine this, I have no idea.
Citizens arrest is another dodgy subject because touching someone is an assault - period.
That what you are talking about was a 7 year prison sentence but whether it still stands is another thing.

How many times have you heard about a burglar being caught and hurt in the process but prosecutes the householder.
I think it all comes down to having a duty of care to other people :headscratch:

https://securityclub.co.uk/can-burglars-sue-homeowners/


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That means the criminal has the upper hand :thumbdown:


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Nockya wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 20:03 That means the criminal has the upper hand :thumbdown:
Not at all.
You can't assault anyone, that's the bottom line.
Also, you can't take the law into your own hands.
Just work around those.


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Sunderland Nut wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 19:26
cam wrote: 01 Oct 2020, 18:32

I was always on the understanding that you can make a citizens arrest if you believe the crime being committed was serious enough to put the perpetrator in prison. But how you determine this, I have no idea.
Citizens arrest is another dodgy subject because touching someone is an assault - period.
That what you are talking about was a 7 year prison sentence but whether it still stands is another thing.

How many times have you heard about a burglar being caught and hurt in the process but prosecutes the householder.
I think it all comes down to having a duty of care to other people :headscratch:

https://securityclub.co.uk/can-burglars-sue-homeowners/
Care for the burglar is null and void the moment they cause criminal damage to your property, trespassing, and theft...

What are you supposed to do, offer them a cup of tea?


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Steve30000 wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 11:48
Care for the burglar is null and void the moment they cause criminal damage to your property, trespassing, and theft...
No it isn't, not while the European human rights and other legislation is in force.
Get rid of the first one after Brexit in December and maybe we can start beating up burglars :lol:


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Why can't we defend our property from invaders?


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Sandy Mackem wrote: 02 Oct 2020, 13:54 Why can't we defend our property from invaders?
You are allowed to defend yourself and your property.


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